State Hacks

One Click Orgs, Alpha demo, 05 July 09, transcript

Posted on: 21 July 2009

One Click Orgs – web software for legal structures and group decision-making made easy.

First question, is it a potential state hack? It could be, if developed a lot further than what it is, but a starting potential is there. Analysis coming in a separate post.

This is a rough transcript/notes from Alpha demo at OpeTech in London 05 July 2009.

– you go through number of steps, system generates the Constitution, sends emails to founding member.

– you have to have a founding meeting face2face, this is the last remaining bit of the old fashion organization, you take a vote on the Constitution and the legal structure exist from there

– constitution does not rely on having a physical address, entirely based on members having only and electronic address, an email … lot more streamlined that the convention organization

– 1:10 voting period can be set, for example we use 3 days

– parts that are changeable in the constitution are marked in yellow

– it tends to be the case that once legal structure is set, it doesn’t change. that’s ossifying, which is a problem. organizations evolve, change, needs and functions change. Formal structure should change along with that.  The advantage of this tool is that it, structure, becomes much more malleable.

– PROPOSAL CREATION:  adding new member sends a proposal to existing member to vote on, if they vote for it, new person becomes a member. This is not an admin function, anyone can start a proposal, and different voting methods can be set (4:55). This automatically updates the constitution.

– when you map legal structure onto an information system, interesting things happen … BUGS become a lot more serious, you can lead organization to halt, or lead to spurious voting.  We also need to make sure no logical mistakes, paradoxes, can happen.

– what we’re implementing is a proxy system, where people don’t have set mandates … i can pass my proxy to another person … if i’m angry with that person’s decision, i can take my proxy back, this is much closer to how it happens in villages.

One Click Orgs demo at OpenTech 2009 from CIRCUS foundation on Vimeo.


2 Responses to "One Click Orgs, Alpha demo, 05 July 09, transcript"

Looks a little like what we tried to do with socialtools, only easier to use (no sysadmin needed) and focused more on legal structures.

I get the sense their goals are part of what we wanted with openorg, we went far more ahead with actual functioning of an organizations, while they focused on how to make it legally existing in a easy way. What connect openorg and this is desire for a) orgs based on email and not physical address and b) organizational structure that changes over time as org changes. I’ll get in touch with them if time permits and suggest they implement an openorg module in their code ie. no voting, but rough consensus, several ways of doing the same project to be accepted, focus on processes, etc.

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Focus is on reviewing, analysing state hacks. Bits of code, procedures, whatever fits. The State was designed as a compromise between the rising aspirations of various groups and the monarchs. It was not designed for a wider, and definitely not for participatory, nor direct, democracy. Now we have the tools to do so. No need to start from scratch though: state hacking time.



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